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Octopuses are probably smarter than we think

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Priya NairPosted Mar 30

They can solve puzzles, recognize individual human faces, use tools, and their neurons are distributed across their arms rather than centralized in a brain. At what point do we stop calling it instinct?

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Yuki TanakaFunderApr 3

The face recognition thing gets me every time. They distinguish between individual humans despite being colorblind. That implies a level of social attention that shouldn't really be necessary for a solitary predator.

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Priya NairOPApr 4

Exactly the question I want answered: what evolutionary pressure produces face recognition in a solitary animal? Could be incidental. Could be something else entirely.

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Great insight!

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Ezra GoldsteinFunderApr 3

The distributed nervous system point is key. About two thirds of their neurons are in their arms, not their central brain. Each arm can process information semi-independently. We have almost no framework for thinking about cognition structured like that.

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Priya NairOPApr 4

Yes, and the lifespan issue makes it even stranger. They live 1-3 years. Whatever learning happens can't accumulate across generations the way mammalian intelligence does. So either it's largely innate, or they're learning extraordinarily fast, or we're measuring the wrong things.

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Ezra GoldsteinFunderApr 5

The Godfrey-Smith work on this is fascinating. He argues octopus intelligence evolved completely independently from vertebrate intelligence, two separate evolutionary experiments in complex cognition. That's an extraordinary natural experiment.

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i read that they can unscrew jars from the inside. like they figured out they were in a jar

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